I knew that many things were going to be different in Italy.
Most of all, I expected the food, the language (of course), and other cultural
bits here and there. School, though, is probably the most significant
difference between Italy and the United States.
The superficial disparities, such as using chalkboards as
opposed to dry-erase boards, hand-writing our essays instead of typing them,
and staying in the same classroom all day rather than moving around to your
teachers’ rooms definitely are the first aspects that get noticed. But now, over
two months into the Italian school system, I have discovered some other, more consequential
differences between Italian and American high schools. For the most part, these
fall under the categories of curriculum and teacher-student interaction – the combination
of which makes an immense difference in the level of interest and engagement of
the students.
[DISCLAIMER] Let me start off by saying that the following
comments reflect my knowledge on two high schools – namely, Summit High School
in Frisco, Colorado, USA and Liceo Scientifico Paolo Lioy in Vicenza, Veneto,
Italy. I am very much aware that there is no such thing as the “average” school
in America or in Italy. I have also heard that a school in the southern regions
of Italy is typically going to be a lot more lax on grading and procedure than
their northern counterpart, where I am. To all of you who read this and are
somehow involved in the education system (either in America or Italy): please
do not be offended. These are my observations, and I would like to make it
clear that I have no problem with the people involved in the system, but
rather, the system as a whole. If you disagree with me, please provide your
insight by commenting at the bottom of the page. [END DISCLAIMER]
If you ask me, the main problem with the Italian school
system is that teachers do not feel the need to engage the students in their
lessons, thus boring them half to death and making them lose interest in
learning. For the most part, Italian schools teach facts and expect the
students to learn and know them, as opposed to American schools where students
learn a piece of general knowledge and then go off and do their own research to
bring back to the class discussion. Memorization is a key part of Italian
curriculums, while in the United States I cannot remember the last time I was
required to learn anything by heart. At least to my perspective, this is not a
good technique. In Italy, students generally learn (and memorize) a myriad of excerpts,
dates, people, figures, formulas, and a whole bunch of other facts in order to
be able to recite them back to the teacher. On the other hand, American students
do not necessarily memorize information, but are trained to conduct research,
discuss, and analyze information that is available. Italian high-schoolers
study vigorously what is written in the book and what the teacher has said,
while their American counterparts do not take as much from teachers, but rather
formulate their own ideas and present them to the class. Even in our Italian
literature class, instead of examining the text and analyzing in on our own,
the teacher dictates her perspective while students copy down the information
to then study and recite back on the test. As Albert Einstein said, “Education
is what is left after you’ve forgotten everything you’ve learned”. It is nearly
impossible for students to remember all the facts that are studied in high
school (most of which can now be found easily with a vast array of resources),
so after forgetting all of these figures and facts, students in Italy will have
essentially gained nothing from their education. In America, on the other hand,
we write research papers (which are pretty much unheard of in Italian high
schools), present information to our classmates (also unheard of – in Italy,
only teachers teach), and are taught how to hold a respectable discussion. By
being trained in these unforgettable life skills, American students gain what
Einstein would call an “education”.
I also believe that the lack of respect given to Italian students by
the large majority of teachers comes across poorly, resulting in a further
deficiency in student interest in academics. In America, it is well-regarded to
have a pleasant debate with a teacher about most any relative topic, as this practice
enhances the knowledge of everyone involved. In Italy, though, grades are
almost entirely subjective, so if you have even the slightest disagreement with
a professor, there goes your grade for the semester. I will mention that not
all teachers are like that, but most are. It is my belief that without free
interchange of ideas, any attempt at learning is futile, for without new ideas
being formulated, there is no progress. Also, I feel that since students in the
United States can generally chose what classes they want to take, they
therefore make a greater effort and are more inclined to participate. Here,
instead, one chooses what track they will do in their first year of high
school, and take the classes laid out for them. Regarding the grades being
subjective, they also tend to be skewed downward in comparison with American
grades. They do go off of a 10 point scale, as opposed to our percentage, but
that is beside the point. For example, a “good” student in the United States
will have mainly A’s with a few B’s in the mix. Here, students rejoice upon
receipt of a 7 + which translates to roughly a 76% - a solid C and not very
characteristic of a “good student”. The mentality among students here is
generally that of striving to get la
sufficenza – or the minimum passing grade, a 6. And while grades below
about 50% are next to nonexistent in the objective American system, every now
and then, Italian students will receive the dreaded 2 or 3, despite answering
more than 70% of the questions correctly. If you ask me, this does not push the
student to try harder and study more, but rather discourages him or her (but usually
him) to have the mentality of “Why study if I get a 2 either way?”.
Yes, that is a chalkboard. And a cross. |
Because of these skewed grading philosophies, I usually get
asked if school is easier in the United States, and I find it hard to reply. The simplest answer is “No,
but it is easier to get a better grade.” This idea is completely
incomprehensible to most people, since they believe that school is about
getting a high grade. I try and explain that, while in Italy, students memorize
everything to get their grades, we analyze and formulate ideas. Just how I am
not well-adapted to the Italian system, I would be willing to say that the
average Italian would not be able to do that well in the American system of
essay-writing and text analysis (but would still pass the class). [I would like
to give a shout-out to Mafy here, since she seems to have embraced the American
school system, and is excelling at Summit High School.] I like to use History class as a good example
of the curricular differences between the American classroom and the Italian
one. In America, we have a great mix of projects, movies, research papers, and
activities that help us grasp historical concepts and how they relate to one
another, to then be able to apply these processes in a different context. In
Italy, on the other hand, the teacher stands at the chalkboard, writing down dates and names, battles and treaties, while we copy down into our
notebooks to study for our interrogations. Yes, that’s right – interrogations.
In every class, one of the testing methods is an oral test either alone or in a
group of two or three. Do not get me wrong, I love my history class here,
especially because the content is interesting and the professor really knows
how to explain it very well. But I realize that in ten years, looking back, I
will not remember that in 1673 the Test Act was passed in England (what we need
to know in Italy), but I will remember that there was a lack of religious liberties
in England in the 17th century and that it impacted other events
(what we learn in the United States).
I would
really like to read your comments on this post, whether they are for or against.
Remember that discussion is the best way to learn. Wait, not learn – instead “be
educated”. There we go, now we won’t forget it, Also, happy Thanksgiving to all
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Wow. I never would have thought the education systems would be so different. Is it like France where you take a big test at the end that basically decides your entire life?
ReplyDeleteThat is what I love about DP and not AP. Everything is concept bases and I never have to memorize anything :)
What exactly is the Test Act?
Do people run around scrapping their nails on chalkboards all the time? Hah
Best of luck in school!! I'm sure you are still doing fabulously.
Haha, let me go in reverse order here. I am actually not doing all that fabulously, especially since I refuse to wear scarfs. Every now and then, my Latin teacher will do the old chalkboard trick, actually no - thats a lie. The Test Act was a group of laws that worked against Catholics and other non-Anglicans as a sort of Inquisition. Yes, I used to not like DP all that much, but now I see its merits. And for the most part, yes, the big test decides your life, but this big test is the college entrance exam, which surprisingly does not even look at high school grades, as long as you pass.
ReplyDeleteThis is really accurate, but I believe american schools are easier just by the fact that we dont have to memorize everything and we dont get interrogated and the teacher can not give us bad grades because we disagree with them. Everything else is completely true about Italian schooling
ReplyDeleteScarfs? Are they popular in Italy? For men and women?
ReplyDeleteI agree that doing research teaches you a lot, but also I tend to agree with memorizing for the kids that otherwise wouldn't take the iniciative to learn more. At least by memorizing things they are ensuring some level of general culture. In some other subjects, memorizing I think is the ONLY way to go, like learning multiplication facts, yes I agree understanding that 3x4 really means 3+3+3+3 is fine, but knowing your facts by memory is best. so I have mixed feelings about this whole concept, I think it is the wrong approach to peaople like you that love to learn, but maybe an OK approach to people that don't want to learn.
ReplyDeleteYou should send a link of this to Mr. Atkins, he would really appreciate it, especially now that they are trying to move towards Standards based grading
ReplyDeleteTo Anonymous: I guess we could say that American schools are 'easier', but for me (since I am not even trying to memorize), they are definitely much more time alloted to schoolwork than in Italy.
ReplyDeleteTo Katie: Yes scarfs. Aren't they fabulous? Extremely popular, for men and women alike. I cannot bring myself to wear one though.
To my mother: I also think that whatever one is raised with is what they are used to, so for example, American education works best for Americans, while you were raised with a system more like the Italian. Did you have interrogations?
To the 2nd Anonymous: I will do that. Who is this by the way?
Stavo leggendo con molta attenzione il tuo post e ti dirò come la penso! Ho sempre pensato che fossi un ragazzo più intelligente della norma e capisco come tu possa avere queste considerazioni riguardo la scuola italiana! Prima di tutto ho una domanda:come fai a sapere che le scuole del sud sono più " facili " e "leggere" delle scuole nordiche e perchè? Ti dirò , ci sono molte cose che hai scritto che condivido , ma altrettante che non condivido! Quando mi viene chiesto, per esempio, se la scuola americana è più facile della scuola italiana , all'impatto mi viene da dire SI, perchè come ben sai , non abbiamo bisogno qui di memorizzare tante cose come facciamo in italia ma penso debba precisare una cosa. Ci sono differenti modi di studiare e differenti persone e differenti approcci allo studio. Memorizzare è qualcosa che non si fa sempre nello stesso modo. Se hai una buona capacità intellettiva puoi memorizzare il giorno prima per il giorno dopo , per la tua interrogazione e per il tuo test, ma dimenticherai tutto probabilmente in una settimana , ma esiste la memorizzazione con intelligenza, che penso sia tutta un 'altra cosa!Memorizzare può, oltre che darti nozioni sull'argomento, stimolarti a formulare le tue proprie idee su ciò che stai studiando. Non credo che sapere quando è avvenuto un armistizio , in che giorno , e in che luogo mi aiuterà nella vita, ma credo che se si è capaci di captare ciò che è davvero importante in un concetto, e farlo proprio, aiuta nella vita! Io personalmente , non amo memorizzare, ma preferisco STUDIARE e chiedermi il perchè riguardo a ciò che è affermato in un libro , e anche se all'interrogazione devo conferire date, persone , luoghi, in cuor mio so ciò che realmente è importante, so che sto studiando la storia e non imparandola a memoria, perchè è l'unico mondo attraverso il quale può l'umanità non ripetere gli stessi errori che sono stati fatti in passato, capire il passato, non imprigionarlo nella mente! In filosofia , per esempio, hai bisogno di ricordare tante cose, ma non devi MEMORIZZARE ciò che può darti interesse, in modo sbagliato!Se riesci a studiare e altrettanto formulare, attraverso ciò che studi , le tue proprie sensazioni riguardo l'argomento, stai costruendo il processo che ti permetterà di considerare te stesso una persona intelligente! Quindi,per quanto riguarda la scuola italiana, tutto dipende da chi sei, cosa vuoi dalla vita e cosa pretendi da te stesso,perchè non c'è nessuno che ti guida , sei tu che scegli, SEMPRE , anche per quanto riguarda lo studio!
ReplyDeletePs: se hai difficoltà a capire, posso scriverlo in inglese se vuoi, e se hai domande da farmi , sono qui :D un baacione !
Mafy !
Hai ragione. "... ma credo che se si è capaci di captare ciò che è davvero importante in un concetto, e farlo proprio, aiuta nella vita!" Anche la filosofia e la materia piu bella!. Hahaha, ho capito tutto!
ReplyDeletehi Alex, thanks for all the insightful and interesting comments in your blog. The link is in our weekly Rotary news letter so I expect several of our members are reading along. I hope that you continue to have lots of 'new' experiences in Italy, and to share them with all of us back home.
ReplyDeleteI'm currently in the other Naples (Florida) for a four week stay, and looking forward to returning to Summit County in mid December. Lots of early snow so it should be a good season on the mountains. The outbound YE interviews are set for the first weekend in December and we have four applicants from SHS; hoping that they are all successful!
best regards, Jim Brook
Jim: Alright, can you put me in contact with those four as soon as they decide on acting on it? Thank you!
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